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In this book, I've endeavored to bring Nicholas II and his family back to life.
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My aim is to be absolutely impartial and to preserve complete independence of mind in describing the events of which I have been an eyewitness.
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So today we're going to be talking about the Romanovs, the last first family of Russia.
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Specifically Tsar Nicholas II and his lovely wife Alexandra.
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One of the things that I didn't understand when we first started getting into this, as a lay person, you know, I always thought that 1800s Europe was, well, you had the Russians and they lived in Russia, and you have the Germans, they lived in Germany, you had the UKans and they lived in England.
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But that's that's not exactly the case.
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These people, Nicholas, was actually related to a bunch of other people in Europe at the time.
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So tell us, give us a little bit of background about these people, Robin.
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Well, yes, at the time, the late 1800s, most of them were, a lot of them were related.
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And Nicholas II, Tsar of Russia, was cousins with Kaiser Wilhelm, who was the leader of Germany, and George V of England.
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And they were more than just cousins, though, because you have close cousins and you know, far cousins.
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Well, these were close enough to call themselves Nikki and Willie, write each other letters, hang out together.
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And these guys were also, you think about them being these old stately men.
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Well, they were they were younger, 30s when we're talking about them instead of 40s.
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So these aren't like ancient old guys hanging out.
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This is a bunch of younger dudes meeting together and hanging out.
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Um, and then the guy from England.
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George Pitt.
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You've got you've got George.
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George comes, and there's another picture of him in in Germany, hanging out in Germany with good old cousin Wilhelm, and Nicholas is there, and they're just, you know, they're just all having a good time.
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And so the context for this is interesting because these guys are leaders of these nations when they led us into one of the bloodiest conflicts in human history, which is World War I.
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Yes, these were the leaders of the country.
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Wilhelm, the leader of Germany, and Nicholas, the czar of Russia, will just a few years after they take these cool pictures and one of them was less than a year.
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It was less than a year.
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So they're taking these pictures, and they're like, oh, let's get together and have, you know, a family romp.
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And then the next year, oh, let's lead our countries against each other in the world war.
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So that's the setting of the people and the families that we find ourselves at this time.
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And Nicholas, the girl who he marries, Alexandra, she is actually, she's not from Russia.
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She is from Germany.
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And she's related to Queen Victoria.
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Yes, she's Queen Victoria's granddaughter.
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So when you hear people talk about Victorian England, that's the Queen Victoria that we're talking about.
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So to say that the family relationships are complicated in this part of the world would be an understatement.
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And they got that way over a long period of time.
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The Tsars in Russia reigned over Russia for three centuries, 300 years.
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And then you have the Prussian kings, and they go back 500 years.
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So you have these families that are deeply related over many generations, either through blood or marriage.
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And that's the world that we find ourselves in the late 1800s in Europe.
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So tell us a little bit about Nicholas and Alexander, because their families who were kind of zooming in on Russia a bit.
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Tell us about who they were.
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Well, Alexandra was actually she was German.
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She was born in Hesse on the Rhine.
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So she was a smaller kingdom, not one that many people really cared about.
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But Queen Victoria loved her.
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She was her oldest granddaughter and actually wanted her to marry into the English royal family to marry one of the sons.
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And in her amazing defense, she said that she saw Edward, who was one of Victoria's son, yeah, was a descendant in England as a cousin.
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She saw him as a cousin.
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Oh, ouch.
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Well, you know, he was her first cousin.
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There's the friend zone, and then there's the family zone.
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No, it was rough.
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But Victoria understood.
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She didn't like it, but she understood.
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Well, Nicholas, his parents wanted him to marry into a larger kingdom and be able to have alliances that way.
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But he fell in love with Alexandra, who the family called Alex when they went to her sister's wedding, which is a great way to meet people you might want to marry in Europe at the time.
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I mean, you're there anyway.
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So um Alex was only 12 at the time, and Nicholas was 16.
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So they were just kids when they met.
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They were just kids, but he had a crush on her for years, and no one approved of the marriage.
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No one thought it was good.
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Nobody liked the Germans in Russia.
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His parents were extremely anti-Germanic.
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And but you know what?
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Nicholas and Alexandra, they were second cousins, which makes it so much better than the other.
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So maybe he's not going to be in the first cousin in the other family zone.
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A further, further cousin.
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But yes, as he's related to George V and she's related to Victoria.
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Yeah, it's it's messy, but it's all in there.
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And he wrote in his diary at the time, quote, It is my dream to one day marry Alex H.
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I have loved her for a long time, but more deeply and strongly since 1889, when she spent six weeks in St.
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Petersburg.
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For a long time, I've resisted my true feelings that my dearest dream will come true.
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End quote.
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So he fell in love with her in 1884, and then she came and visited her sister, and they hung out for a few weeks, you know.
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Still, she wasn't even 20 yet or something.
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They're just young people.
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Yeah.
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And but he was desperately in love with her.
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And I just I want to say that Nicholas was a very prolific writer.
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Alexandra was too.
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And um, most of their things are from the alexandrapalace.org website.
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You can go and search through all of them.
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And so that's where I got the quote if you have tens of hours of times and just feel like reading through their diaries, more power to you.
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But there is a lot of information on all of the Romanovs on that website.
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They were able to get married mainly just because his dad got very sick, Nicholas's dad, and realized that Nicholas needed to be married off to secure the line of the Romanovs, and so he allowed them to get married.
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And this was 1894.
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Alexandra, who of course, his parents actually really did not want him to marry, was introduced to the Russian public at a very unlucky time.
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It was, well, at the funeral of his dad, Alexander III.
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That's when it was like, hey, this is the chick I'm marrying, check her out.
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Right here during the funeral?
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Yeah, you know, there's like a month long everyone dresses black and mourning period.
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Okay.
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Right.
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But there was like one day during this mourning period where they didn't really have to wear black.
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And so they got married on that day, which incidentally was also the birthday of Nicholas's mom, who was only uh 47 at the time.
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But it was her birthday.
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So this daughter-in-law's getting that she doesn't like, is getting married on her birthday.
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And and it just it just didn't really uh start out well.
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And the there's stories of Maria writing to Victoria to complain about her, about Alexandra.
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And it was a big thing at the time when the emperor and empress would walk into court or balls or dances together, and Maria, his mom, insisted on walking with him.
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Alexandra had to walk behind them.
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Oh wow, I bet that made for an interesting family.
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Yeah, great in-law relationships there.
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And later, this would be, you know, a couple decades later, uh, possibly conspired against Nicholas II to share regency over her grandson Alexi.
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Uh so the kind of things you would expect from, you know, royal royal families and and all of their intrigue.
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That's but the coronation happened in 1896, which also was kind of unlucky because word got out that there were gifts and there were food for people that showed up.
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So this was Nicholas's coronation.
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Yeah, in 1896.
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They'd been married a couple years, but over 500,000 people showed up to this coronation, and someone passed the word around, hey, there's food and gifts for you.
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I mean, yeah, you're gonna come for that.
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So much so that thousands of people were trampled to death.
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Okay, well that's that's good.
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Yeah, I know.
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But Nicholas and Alexandra went to a ball that night anyway, that the French ambassador was holding.
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The British ambassador did write back to Victoria that Alexandra's face was flushed and she'd been crying, and Alexandra did not want to go to the ball.
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She thought that they should be with the people and make statements.
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So the next day, they Nicholas and Alexandra paid for the coffins of all these thousands of people that died and went out to see them.
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But it really didn't sit well with the Russian public that they went ahead and went to a ball the night when literally, like in their courtyard, there were thousands of people that had been trampled.
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Yeah, that does seem a bit tone deaf.
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Yeah, which it was.
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But you know, you don't want to offend the French.
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Right.
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Which, but incidentally, that's that was the language of the court in Russia was French.
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Which is interesting.
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So you have Alexandra, she speaks German?
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Yes.
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So she's and English.
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She speaks German and English.
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She's in the Russian court.
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Speaks no Russian.
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She doesn't speak any Russian.
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She doesn't speak French.
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And she doesn't speak French, which is what everybody there.
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Like I said, the court situation of the aristocracy at this point in time is complicated.
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She also didn't really like balls and court presentations and stuff.
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She was not a flamboyant person.
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Edward Radzinski says in his book, The Last Tsar, The Life and Death of Nicholas, that, quote, the Russian court judged her as devoid of charm, wouldn't, with cold eyes, hold herself as if she'd swallowed a yardstick, end quote.
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So what you're saying is Alexandra didn't know how to party.
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Right.
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In fact, one time she complained about a dress that another a girl was wearing to the ball, and the girl told her, Well, you may dress like that in England, but this is how Russians dress.
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Gotcha.
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So there was there was a bit of tension there.
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Yeah, and she was quiet and shy to begin with, and then not speaking the language, she just didn't participate much, and people saw that as her being aloof and not in touch with the court.
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She never was one to be involved in court life.
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She thought that the girls were silly and didn't see any reason to engage with them much.
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She also believed in strongly in authoritarianism and the divine right of kings, which didn't really help anything.
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Queen Victoria wrote to her once telling her you need to get to know the people, be involved with them.
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This was in response to one of her mother-in-law's letters saying that she was terrible and didn't do anything right.
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No.
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But she wrote back, quote, Russia is not England.
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We do not need to earn the love of the people.
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The Russian people view their Tsars as divine beings, end quote.
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This was in Orlando, Fiji's A People's Tragedy.
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So coincidentally, I I also read in one of the other people that we're going to talk about, that where he was talking about how the peasants, uh, many of them really did think of the Tsar as kind of an extension of the divinity of God.
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He was the king, but he was it was almost really kind of like the medieval concept of the king is being blessed and especially anointed by God.
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So she was not entirely wrong in that a lot of people did see the Tsar as a divine post.
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And throughout her life, even till the end, she firmly believed that she was loved by the peasants.
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Well, and and the thing is, is that maybe she was.
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I mean, it could be because the peasants probably didn't speak French and they didn't go to court.
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You know, the fact that she wasn't a party or in the court that probably didn't matter to them as much.
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Well, and this I have no way to really substantiate it, except that I read it from a primary source of someone who was there in the castle with her uh Sophie, said that actually during the war, when things were starting to look bad, that she would get hundreds of fake letters sent from peasants, that the court would give Alexandra letters from the peasants that weren't that that they weren't able to figure out where actually those letters came from, and which kept her thinking that the peasants all loved her even as things were getting restless on the ground and they didn't know what was going on.
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Well, the peasants might have loved her.
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They may, I mean, do we know that those letters were fake?
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Well, I'm saying that that's what Sophie thought they were fake.
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Yeah, who was she was a lady in waiting.
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She was good friends with Alexandra.
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Right.
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And so, I mean, we should probably introduce Sophie.
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She's she's a person who we're going to be using some of her some of her book later on.
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Yes, act actually, um uh we're gonna use two main sources in this podcast.
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Um, one of them was Sophie Vuxhoven that was a handmaiden to Alexandra for years.
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She wrote the life and tragedy of Alexandra Fyodorovna.
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So we'll talk about what she said and go through her story, and also that of the tutor, Pierre Gilliard.
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He was a Swiss tutor that worked with the children for 13 years.
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He wrote a book, 13 years in the Russian Court.
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Both of these people stayed with the royal family as far into their captivity, their house arrest, and moved to different places with them as far as they could till the Bolsheviks made them leave.
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Right.
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And Pierre actually kept going back to the house a couple times to try to be with them.
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So these were guys that really they know what the royal family's thinking.
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Now, these are primary sources, and every primary source has its own bias.
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Sure.
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But in this episode, we're going to be looking at everything through the lives of the royal family, and so I think that this is the best way to do that.
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So I just want to read a description that Sophie has of the Empress, just to get an overall picture of how they were seen by their family.
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Sophie says, quote, the Empress's character was very complex.
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Love for her husband and children was its dominant trait.
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She was an ideal wife and mother.
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Her worst enemies could not deny her this.
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She was a very womanly woman, not always logically reasonable, but it was a case of conflict between reason and affection.
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Her intellect was always subordinate to her heart.
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In her dealings with other people, her idealism often made her find in them the good that her own nature led her to expect.
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Her inherent shyness, which she was never able to conquer, was misunderstood and considered pride.
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She never acquired the easy outward manner and ready smile that wins the hearts of the public, and her modesty kept her from fighting for the popularity she so ardently desired at heart.
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She worked incessantly to improve the conditions of the poorer classes, founding schools and hospitals, fighting tenaciously against many difficulties put in her way.
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All she did in this respect for Russia has never been told, and has, since the revolution, been consistently ignored by all those who have written about her.
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The Empress adored Russia and the Russian people.
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No sacrifice could be too great for Russia, even the crown of her husband and her son's inheritance.
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End quote.
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So that's the view of the Empress that people in the court had, and really just gives a perspective of what she was like.
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Pierre Gilliard wrote, He came as a tutor when the girls, she had four girls, Olga, Tatiana, Maria, and Anastasia, and then Alexei was born, and he came as a tutor for the older girls.
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Now, some of y'all may have heard of Anastasia from a movie that is very near and dear to Generation X's hearts.
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I have to admit, I I have not seen it.
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Well, that's just the worst.
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We have to rectify that.
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Well, so here's the thing.
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I may not have seen Anastasia, but I have seen Rasputin, Dark Servant of Destiny, starring Alan Rickman, and let me say it is amazing.
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But may I mean honestly, guys, we're gonna have to compare it.
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Think of Alan Rickman.
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This he like seems enthusiastic and excited to be in this role.
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Like he does, he does a very good job as a Rasputin.
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Alan Rickman dancing on a table as a Russian.
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I mean, how can you really beat that?
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But we'll get to we'll get to Resputin's.
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We'll get to Rasputin, but um, but Anastasia manch, the 1990 kids movie, which was done by Fox, but now she's very much a Disney princess.
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Disney has like incorporated her into the Disney princess category.
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I did not know that.
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I know, but the best part is that there's a rat in it played by Christopher Lloyd.
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All right.
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So maybe we'll have to go uh but yes, so many girls and Generation X people know Anastasia because a lot of people think that she may have escaped at the end.
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So so she had four girls.
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People were concerned that maybe she wasn't gonna she was not gonna be able to produce a male episode.
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Oh yeah, they called her all kinds of names in the press.
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They blamed it on her being German.
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That German, that German princess only wants to give us girls.
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Right.
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Um all kinds of things.
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But she had a while of popularity after she had her son.
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Alexi.
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Who would be the only son that Sarovich is what they called him the next in line.
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And this changed pretty much everything because Alexi had a disease called hemophilia, where it's a blood disorder where if you get hurt or bumped or anything, it it could be life-threatening because your blood doesn't clot.
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And this was hereditary from well, actually, Queen Victoria had it, and he got it from his mom, and they kept it from the public for as as long as he lived, and because they didn't want anyone to be afraid of you know the legacy of the Tsar and what was going to happen.
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But it was really hard for her, and she went to lots of people and things to try to get it to try to heal him.
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Yeah, try try to fix it, try to heal him.
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And she ended up turning to a Siberian peasant named Russ Buten.
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But I want to read uh Pierre Gilliard's The Tudors, what he feels she was going through at the time to try to understand why she would follow this mystic uh that was just a peasant.
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You know, he wasn't a monk or a like you know, a priest or a bishop or anything.
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She had tried, I mean the doctor, she tried everything else.
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She tried everything.
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Right.
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So she she had gone to anybody that she could find to help her kid, and nobody was able to know.